All glow plugs burned out.

[Coug]

2), once again, the original author of that document's name is clearly visible at the top right corner next to the date. It's a wire pinout list, not some proprietary circuit diagram.
3) yes, he altered the original. That's the entire point is that it's altered to still perform the same end goal (vehicle will start and run and function) while eliminating some unnecessary functions. By your logic once someone makes something nobody else is ever allowed to touch it as that would be theft of intellectual property.
4) CAMO is a great guy. I have no idea if he has any issue with that thread with the pinout list that he wrote up being shared or not as he has not said anything about it that I know of. It doesn't mean he is okay with it as I am not going to put words into his mouth, but I haven't seen anywherer that it was disputed.
5) CAMO did do a lot of work to make a functional bypass to the original box, but we're talking technology from the 1980's and earlier, not something that is actually current on the market. As I wasn't on this site at the time and wasn't involved in any of the development, all I have to go off of is a thread where one person wrote notes on the printed notes of another person.
If the original creator of a technology chooses to file a copyright/patent for something, then by all means it's their product, and using it or it's design without authorization is indeed a big offense, and I would also not willingly do business with anyone that stole that intellectual property.

6)thank you for supporting integrity. Too many people choose to look the other way.

7) you didn't call out Tobash? You might not have meant to, but from a third party perspective, you very much did call him out, insult him and his work. I invite you to reread what you posted immediately after his post and try to do so from an outside viewpoint and see how it might be taken in a negative way.

I did a lot of research prior to my decision. I saw your product. Viewed the links through the posting dates and compared to the other products I was checking out. Your version seemed like a poor attempt to chose cheap components in an attempt to lower price, while affecting quality and robustness. Due to learning in 37 years of electronic and CNC repair... a good technician never blames his tools... I didn't want to sacrifice quality for a few dollars, or I would have bought your product. However, it also didn't make sense to pay you for your poor attempt at someone else's intellectual property.

 

[TOBASH]

The more I see the more I wonder if this guy is possibly “fronting” for someone else. As far as this caustic person, I have him on “ignore” so I cannot see his exact comments. I see people’s replies to him, and I can only assume his toxicity continues.

I really appreciate the support from other members here. I’m proud of the appreciation and support I have received over the years, including several private messages

In the 5 ton category people posted about PCB function and internal parts and bypass. They posted about selling their units for those who didn’t want to rebuild a decade ago, and there was never an issue.

What about laws re.: “right to repair“ this older technology. This also does not affect in any way, shape, or form emissions, or engine function.

Perhaps his wayward complaint is directed at someone else who manufacturers from the ground up pushbutton clones that are not supported by AM General. I hope not. “Right-to-repair.” Anytime you go out to Midas in order to purchase a muffler, is that generic muffler somehow illegal? The same with lightbulbs. The same with car seats. Show me how that other vendor has done anything wrong.

It’s my feeling that by-and-large this a cohesive group that supports each other. The way we show our appreciation for this amazing site is through showing love through cooperation. Many of us “pay it forward“ rather than charging exorbitant fees.

Dave Breggin and his Blue Hummer spindle nuts were designed by a man who just wanted to help the community. Same as Tom Cepek and his one piece Hummer/HMMWV rims and affordable runflats. Same with Bulldogger and his awesome rear canvass tops.

Most of the hobbyists here do not have unlimited funds, so paying 10% to 20% of their vehicles value for a silly glow plug controller that is never seen and hides under the dashboard seems prohibitive. Many have told me they modify their units well under $90, in essence avoiding the “Hummer/HMMWV tax”. Understanding how the controller works provides knowledge regarding the potentially/arguably unnecessary integrated circuitry.

Still:

<<<Fools<<< >>>Money>>>

Mark Twain - “Common sense is not so common.”

 

[Powderkegger]

Coo

The more I see the more I wonder if this guy is possibly “fronting” for someone else with an ax to grind. As far as this caustic person, I have him on “ignore” so I cannot see his exact comments. I see people’s replies to him, and I can only assume his toxicity continues.

I really appreciate the support from other members here. I’m proud of the appreciation and support I have received over the years, including several private messages

In the 5 ton category people posted about PCB function and internal parts and bypass. They posted about selling their units for those who didn’t want to rebuild a decade ago, and there was never an issue.

It’s my feeling that by-and-large this a cohesive group that supports each other and as such in 2018. Many of us “pay it forward“ rather than charging exorbitant fees.

Dave Breggin and his Blue Hummer spindle nuts were designed by a man who just wanted to help the community. Same as Tom Cepek and his one piece Hummer/HMMWV rims and runflats. Same with Bulldogger and his awesome rear canvass tops.

Most of the hobbyists here do not have unlimited funds, so paying 10% to 20% of their vehicles value for a silly glow plug controller that is never seen and hides under the dashboard seems prohibitive. Many have told me they modify their units well under $90, in essence avoiding the “Hummer/HMMWV tax”. Understanding how the controller works provides knowledge regarding the unnecessary integrated circuitry.

Still:

<<<Fools<<< >>>Money>>>

Cool. I'm not a front. My replies and thoughts are my own.
Points for trying to deflect from what I have said...

Have a blessed day.

 

[Retiredwarhorses]

Coo

Cool. I'm not a front. My replies and thoughts are my own.
Points for trying to deflect from what I have said...

Have a blessed day.

Sure, your thoughts are your own, but your bias from other sources is what makes your argument mute….you have gone out of your way on something purely trivial, now take your ball and GTF home.

 

[Powderkegger]

I don't understand what "bias" from "other sources" you are referencing. I reference being the proof from his own post.

I replied to his reply on my comment... I thought that was akin to having a conversation. I didn't think it was "out or my (your) way".
If integrity is "something purely trivial"... what does anything mean?

Apologies, I did not realize that someone can not disagree and voice the disagreement. Though, as I'm writing this from my home, and I still have my balls, I have complied with your request.

By the way... in reading the many posts on here. Your reputation is excellent and you help very much. Thank you.