Mep-005A Spin on oil filter

[flydude92]

Has anyone come up with a spin on oil filter setup for the mep-005a?

 

[Scoobyshep]

Has anyone come up with a spin on oil filter setup for the mep-005a?

Paging @Ray70 white courtesy phone

 

[flydude92]

Paging @Ray70 white courtesy phone

I checked with Ray a couple months ago. He only makes them for the 002-003.

 

[Scoobyshep]

I checked with Ray a couple months ago. He only make them for the 002-003.

Could have sworn he did one for a 004. But relying on my memory is like me being the voice of reason. Someone's loosing an eyebrow.

 

[Ray70]

Na, unfortunately my fuel filter adapters will fit the 004 and 005, but not the oil. However, since the 005 uses a remote filter canister with hoses leading to it, I suspect the universal "Remote oil filter Kits" would work.
Or better yet, this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1761523879...MIiKnRw-GukQMVp6RaBR0NnDvmEAQYASABEgLNMvD_BwE

 

[Ray70]

Actually I just remembered I had an 005 years ago the had a remote oil filter kit on it when I got it.
It was simply a universal filter mount, similar to above, mounted to the block with the hoses routed accordingly.

 

[Guyfang]

If I had one, it would be about the first or second thing I would change.

 

[flydude92]

I've been thinking about coming up with a spin on filter for a long time. I started looking for something a couple months ago then realized someone else may have come up with something which is why I asked.

Since I'm not an engineer I try to come up with something similar to the original design. I've been looking for a filter base that would accept a 4" diameter filter similar to what is already in use.

I purchased a Baldwin OB1308 which is a bypass filter base. The center hole is .098" and would have to be drilled out to 3/8" for full flow. I ordered a filter that should fit according to its dimensions. It's 7.4" tall so I plan on mounting it to the left of the original to provide more room to service it.

I designed a bracket to add to the existing bracket to move it to the left although I haven’t built it yet.

Anyone have comments or suggestions good or bad let me know.

 

[Ray70]

Do you happen to know what size fittings or hoses are on the original housing?
I think the 3/8" NPT inlet and outlet might be a little small, 1/2"NPT or -10AN would have been better,

 

[Scoobyshep]

Remember to use thread sealant on NPT fittings, If it were me, Loctite 567

 

[flydude92]

Do you happen to know what size fittings or hoses are on the original housing?
I think the 3/8" NPT inlet and outlet might be a little small, 1/2"NPT or -10AN would have been better,

The fittings on the original and the new one are both 3/8" NPT.

 

[flydude92]

I’m trying to determine the direction of oil flow thru the oil filter.
My understanding is that oil usually flows from the outside of the filter thru
the center and to the engine. However when I read the TM it sounds like it
flows in the opposite direction.

Can someone clarify this for me?

TM 5-6115-465-34 page 3-45
3-32. GENERAL.
The engine oil pan serves as a reservoir for lubricating
oil. It is equipped with a bayonet type gauge
for checking the all level in the pan. Oil is drawn into
a gear type, positive displacement pump through a
screen which prevents the entry of coarse abrasives.
The oil pump forces the oil through a full flow type
oil filter which removes minute abrasives. From the
oil filter, the oil flows into the header, a drilled
passage in the cylinder block, from which it is distributed
to the internal engine components. A pressure
transmitter measures oil pressure in the header
and transmits it electrically to the oil pressure
gauge. Header oil pressure is also measured by a
low oil pressure switch which shuts down the engine
if oil pressure falls to a dangerously 10w level.

 

[Ray70]

That is also my understanding as a general rule for all filters. Flow is from outside in towards the center.
I think this is the reason SOME folks quote as the reason they don't pre-fill filters, they say you are dumping unfiltered oil into the side of the filter that will go directly to the engine upon startup. ( this is what I've heard, not looking to open up a debate about pre-filling or not )

 

[Scoobyshep]

That is also my understanding as a general rule for all filters. Flow is from outside in towards the center.
I think this is the reason SOME folks quote as the reason they don't pre-fill filters, they say you are dumping unfiltered oil into the side of the filter that will go directly to the engine upon startup. ( this is what I've heard, not looking to open up a debate about pre-filling or not )

Typically I believe the same. One thing to watch for I have a 003 that nuked it's injection pump (old Bosch) and it does because the water strai

 

[Ray70]

Say that again.... looks like your message got cut short!

 

[Scoobyshep]

Say that again.... looks like your message got cut short!

Ugh damn technology making me look like a jackass.

The water seperater was plumbed backwards which rendered it useless. And when I had the filter assembly removed I found 1 filter correct and the other backwards. So now that's on my new to me generator checklist.

 

[Coug]

The filter material has a lot more strength if it has the oil pushing in on it from the outside than if it was from inside to out. A lot of filters have some sort of inner liner, be it metal or plastic, to increase the strength further.

 

[Scoobyshep]

The filter material has a lot more strength if it has the oil pushing in on it from the outside than if it was from inside to out. A lot of filters have some sort of inner liner, be it metal or plastic, to increase the strength further.

More surface area for contaminants too

 

[Ray70]

Ugh damn technology making me look like a jackass.

The water seperater was plumbed backwards which rendered it useless. And when I had the filter assembly removed I found 1 filter correct and the other backwards. So now that's on my new to me generator checklist.

Interesting, Several years ago I had an 002 with single digit hours that had been drained, prepped for storage and crated by the military. It even had NOS 2HN batteries in it without any acid in them. It had been stored in the crate indoors at a public works garage in MA. for 30+ years. It had a bad IP because the tip of the plunger had some rust pits on the first 1/4" or so of the OD.
I never thought much about the cause, but I wonder if it had the same problem and had a little water in the IP at some point?

 

[Scoobyshep]

Interesting, Several years ago I had an 002 with single digit hours that had been drained, prepped for storage and crated by the military. It even had NOS 2HN batteries in it without any acid in them. It had been stored in the crate indoors at a public works garage in MA. for 30+ years. It had a bad IP because the tip of the plunger had some rust pits on the first 1/4" or so of the OD.
I never thought much about the cause, but I wonder if it had the same problem and had a little water in the IP at some point?

The giveaway was the rusty mud in the filter. That made me look closer and saw the flow inconsistent with the marks on the casting