• Steel Soldiers now has a few new forums, read more about it at: New Munitions Forums!

  • Microsoft MSN, Live, Hotmail, Outlook email users may not be receiving emails. We are working to resolve this issue. Please add support@steelsoldiers.com to your trusted contacts.

trying to decode m35a2 bumper numbers and the FSB painted all over truck

loveyou doe

New member
28
8
3
Location
michigan
from my understanding it should be
38th Infantry Div 146th something mabye medic? and convoy truck 8
i was told the reason it says FSB on both rear bumperettes and side of hood just refer to its air brakes but dosent make sense to me as i always understood FSB as Forward Support Battalion
duce2.jpgduce.jpg
 

sigo

Lieutenant Colonel
Steel Soldiers Supporter
1,720
499
83
Location
Leavenworth, KS
I believe there was a 46th Infantry Brigade of the MI ARNG under the 38th ID of the IN ARNG. 46th Infantry BDE had a 146th Forward Support Battalion. Under 146th FSB was C Company. C Company was the FSBs medical company.

However, those bumper numbers don’t reflect that. Next to the 38I should be 46BDE, not 146. But units often come up with unique markings that might not quite make sense. I couldn’t find any reference to another 146th Brigade or any 146th numbered echelon that might have a FSB within its task organization. There was a MIARNG 146th Multifunctional Medical Battalion, but I couldn’t find any reference to the 146th MMB being tasked in any way to 38 ID. Plus a MMB would not have a FSB within their task org.
 

porkysplace

Well-known member
9,604
1,500
113
Location
mid- michigan

loveyou doe

New member
28
8
3
Location
michigan
C8 is the truck admin number. The combined weight rating is displayed on the front of the truck, using a special mounting plate and replaceable numbers.
The reason i say it was the combined weight as bridge plate read c08 as well as c8 in a circle on pass door
 

The Rifleman

New member
4
5
3
Location
NH
This truck is from the 38th Infantry Division, 146th Forward Support Battalion, Charlie Company, Vehicle 8. At one point, the Michigan National Guard had elements in the 38th ID and all I can assume is that the 146th (which is a Michigan unit) was assigned to the 38th. As pointed out above, C company in an FSB is the medical company which provided brigade level support. I am not familiar with the bumper numbers of a Medical Company, but my own best guess is that this was either a maintance vehicle (as they frequently have the prefix "8" or perhaps the company supply sergeant or POL vehicle.
 
Last edited:

The Rifleman

New member
4
5
3
Location
NH
I believe there was a 46th Infantry Brigade of the MI ARNG under the 38th ID of the IN ARNG. 46th Infantry BDE had a 146th Forward Support Battalion. Under 146th FSB was C Company. C Company was the FSBs medical company.

However, those bumper numbers don’t reflect that. Next to the 38I should be 46BDE, not 146. But units often come up with unique markings that might not quite make sense. I couldn’t find any reference to another 146th Brigade or any 146th numbered echelon that might have a FSB within its task organization. There was a MIARNG 146th Multifunctional Medical Battalion, but I couldn’t find any reference to the 146th MMB being tasked in any way to 38 ID. Plus a MMB would not have a FSB within their task org.
You are absolutely right, this is a Michigan unit. However you won't see a 46th Infantry Brigade on anything except the Brigade HQ trucks. For most units, on the left side, you'll see the division numbers and the battalion numbers. For seperate brigades, you'll see the Brigade number on top and the battalion numbers on bottom. For the divisional units, you won't see the the division with the brigade because then there would be no room for the battalion. At any rate, at one point, brigades were swapping battalions around anyway, inside of the division. As far as why the numbers are so close "146 FSB" in the "46th Infantry Brigade" is because many of the national guard units just added a "1" or a "2" in many of their generic support battalions and sometimes artillery too. Otherwise you could end up with a 46 Signal Bn, 46th FSB and 46 FA and so on.
 
Top